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[ 1 ] ckdiu(dodo) ( 2006/10/6 上午 01:54:00 )
is it good according to the Bible?
[ 2 ] 567(小羊) ( 2006/10/7 上午 08:45:00 )
Hallelujah, (GenesisCh.17 V.17) Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born unto him that is a hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear? (Gospel of LukeCh.1 V.18.19) And Zacharias said unto the angel, Whereby shall I know this? for I am an old man, and my wife well stricken in years. And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and I was sent to speak unto thee, and to bring thee these good tidings. Please read：(1 SamuelCh.8 V.7-22) And Jehovah said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee; for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not be king over them…………. V.16 And he will take your men-servants, and your maid-servants, and your goodliest young men, and your asses, and put them to his work………..。 【★【 If you and your husband do in-vitro fertilization, I think that will be no problem at all. However, if there was a third party involved, would it cause problems for you and your husband in the future. Also, there could have emotional problems because the baby would not belong to both husband and wife. ecause God first created to be one man and one wife joined together as one couple. This is my opinion. Maybe you can ask the opinion of Pastor Tien, he’s in charge of pastoring the Hong Kong TJC church area. 】】★ (James Ch.1 V.6) But let him ask in faith, nothing doubting: for he that doubteth is like the surge of the sea driven by the wind and tossed. (1 Corinthians Ch.6 V.12) All things are lawful for me; but not all things are expedient. All things are lawful for me; but I will not be brought under the power of any. (2 Corinthians Ch.12 V.9-10) And he hath said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for `my' power is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. Wherefore I take pleasure in weaknesses, in injuries, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong. Let us pray together to God if he would have mercy to break the bonds of sorrow.
[ 3 ] ckdiu(dodo) ( 2006/10/7 下午 10:06:00 )
thanks.May I know who you are? your english or chinese name? I am not going to do IVF at all,just asking. I believe God will take care of me.Pray and pray is the only way. By the way,in the process of IVF,they often destroy the worse cells,reductive selection,that's some small lives? For catholic,they don't accept,what do you think?
[ 4 ] 567(小羊) ( 2006/10/8 上午 02:07:00 )
Hallelujah, I have a friend who is in his forties, and they have tried to have a child through IVF, but were consistently unsuccessful. I'm not sure about the ethics of IVF, but there is only one womb, and many male chromosomes, but the doctors only choose based on biological science. That's why the church prohibits abortion. (PsalmsCh.103V.13):Like as a father pitieth his children, So Jehovah pitieth them that fear him. (PsalmsCh.127 V.3): Lo, children are a heritage of Jehovah; `And' the fruit of the womb is `his' reward. If you trust in God, He will provide a miracle for you, just like Abraham's wife, Sarah. The God whom we trust is the one true God who is Jesus Christ. You can go to our True Jesus Church in Hong Kong and ask Pastor Tien - Jesus said, through Him, everything is possible. Just like Jonah, who was in the big fish for 3 days and 3 nights, and how the disciples of Jesus, through God's power, was able to perform many miracles. This is all given to us from Jesus Christ. Most importantly, we have to be able to trust and rely on the one true God, and through it, to follow the words of the Bible. (Gospel of Matthew Ch.9V.18-.29)......... And when he was come into the house, the blind men came to him: and Jesus saith unto them, Believe ye that I am able to do this? They say unto him, Yea, Lord. Then touched he their eyes, saying, According to your faith be it done unto you (Gospel of JohnCh.6 V.35-38)Jesus said unto them. I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall not hunger, and he that believeth on me shall never thirst........ All that which the Father giveth me shall come unto me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. .....。 (2 Peter1:20)knowing this first, that no prophecy of scripture is of private interpretation. (Gospel of MatthewCh.11V.28-30)Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. Sincerely, John PS: A:Hong Kong Church 香港教會Pastor Tien(田) 地址： 香港北角炮台山道二至六號,一至二樓 1/F & 2/F, 2-6 Fortress Hill Road, North Point, HONG KONG 電話： 852-2570-2423 傳真： 852-2566-5693 郵件： hk@tjc.org.hk B: Western Church 西區教會 地址： 香港石塘咀和合街1-3號 金陵閤A座1/F 109-110室 Flat 109-110, 1/F Blk. A, Kam Ling Court, 1-3 Woo Hop Street, HONG KONG 電話： 852-2818-5760 傳真： 852-2818-5760 c: Kowloon Church 九龍教會 教會分級： 教會 地址： 香港九龍旺角海庭道8號富榮花園一樓67B號舖 1/F., Shop 67B, Charming Garden, 8 Hoi Ting Road, Mong Kok, Kowloon, HONG KONG 電話： 852-2380-2180 傳真： 852-2395-2315 郵件： tjcknt@yahoo.com. D:‧Tai Po Church 大埔教會 教會分級： 教會 地址： 香港新界大埔運頭角里10號美麗大廈1樓B座 Flat B, 1/F, Mei Lai Building, 10, Wan Tau Kok Lane, Tai Po, N.T., HONG KONG 電話： 852-2656-0564 傳真： 852-2656-0564 Tsuen Wan Church 荃灣教會 教會分級： 教會 地址： 香港新界荃灣路德圍52號嘉新大廈1字樓D座 Flat D, 1/F, Carson Mansion, 50 Lo Tak Court, Tsuen Wan, N.T., HONG KONG 電話： 852-2611-9591 傳真： 852-2611-9591 樟木頭教會 教會分級： 教會 地址： 香港新界西貢北約樟木頭村 電話： 852-2641-8159 傳真： 852-2641-8159 Sha Tau Kok Church 沙頭角教會 教會分級： 教會 地址： 香港新界沙頭角新然樓3樓A座 Flat A, 3/F Sha Tau Kok, N.T. Hong Kong 電話： 852-2674-6057 ‧Ap Chau Church 鴨洲教會 教會分級： 教會 地址： 香港新界沙頭角鴨洲村 電話： 852-2679-9325 願主耶穌基督的恩常在我們心裡。 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with our spirit.
[ 5 ] ckdiu(dodo) ( 2006/10/8 上午 06:36:00 )
John, our problem is not having the babe or not,it's about our physical and financial situation to raise a kid,my husband is 55 and have to retire in 5 years,and I am mid 40 and financially unsecure. So I don't think its appropriate for us to try any kind of birth method. My husband wants kid just because he thinks no kid is no hope and no one to rely on. But when the kid is 30 only,he is 85,can he rely on?.....many more problems about his concepts for life--he will teach kid to make as much money as possible and so on...., Thanks anyway.
[ 6 ] 567(小羊) ( 2006/10/8 下午 12:29:00 )
Hallelujah, Dodo (Gospel of JohnCh.14 V.27) Peace I leave with you; my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be fearful. (Gospel of MatthewCh.6 V.30-34) But if God doth so clothe the grass of the field, which to-day is, and to-morrow is cast into the oven, `shall he' not much more `clothe' Be not therefore anxious, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? For after all these things do the Gentiles seek; for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. But seek ye first his kingdom, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you Be not therefore anxious for the morrow: for the morrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. (JamesCh.4 V.15) For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall both live, and do this or that. (Gospel of JohnCh.13 V.34) A new commandment I give unto you, that ye love one another; even as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. (RomansCh.8 V.14-15) For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. For ye received not the spirit of bondage again unto fear; but ye received the spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. (RomansCh.8 V.24) For in hope were we saved: but hope that is seen is not hope: for who hopeth for that which he seeth? (Gospel of John Ch.6 V.35) Jesus said unto them. I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall not hunger, and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. God can give your husband peaceful. If he receives the holy spirit and experiences God, he will joyful& pease from load Please look for pastor tian ( 田) who has special gift of God, But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him `be' the glory both now and for ever. Amen.
